These turned out to be stable as used wire for the tatted ring. I also found stronger old gold colored earring hooks, I used shaded cotton tatting thread in earth tones and some gold beads. The caramel stones are actually called something else and were more expensive than the other semi precious stones, but are so delicious. I have made another set using cream beads with the caramels and a simple tatted loop at the top, but didn’t take a photo, however the silk is not really durable and got caught on something and started fraying. So will be using a different thread.